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		<title>Skin, Messenger, Aero—Alcune considerazioni riguardo la Build 8089</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Giovanni Natale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Da oggi l&#8217;intero mondo vedrà che è stata rilasciata una nuova build di Windows Live Messenger 2009. Ecco le risposte alle domande più comuni che possono sorgere.

Come posso aggiornare Messenger? Devo farlo?
Puoi aggiornare Messenger scaricando il suo installer web.  L&#8217;aggiornamento è raccomandato, ma non ancora obbligatorio.
Funzioneranno gli add-on per Messenger con questa versione aggiornata?
Sì. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-111" style="float: right; margin-left: 15px" title="Windows Live Messenger 2009" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wave3logomessenger3.png" alt="Windows Live Messenger 2009" width="64" height="64" />Da oggi l&#8217;intero mondo vedrà che è stata rilasciata una nuova build di Windows Live Messenger 2009. Ecco le risposte alle domande più comuni che possono sorgere.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Come posso aggiornare Messenger? Devo farlo?<br />
</strong>Puoi aggiornare Messenger scaricando il suo <a href="http://download.live.com/messenger">installer web</a>.  L&#8217;aggiornamento è raccomandato, ma non ancora obbligatorio.</li>
<li><strong>Funzioneranno gli add-on per Messenger con questa versione aggiornata?<br />
</strong>Sì. Ecco una lista degli add-on per Messenger che funzionano:</p>
<ul>
<li>Messenger Plus! Live</li>
<li>MessengerDiscovery</li>
<li>LiveScratcher</li>
<li>BuddyFuse</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Funzioneranno le skin per Messenger in PLSK?<br />
</strong>Questo dipende dalla skin e dalle impostazioni di “restrizione”. Per esempio, Plus!Patch ha bisogno di un aggiornamento per lavorare con questa versione. (Se sei un utente esperto, potresti facilmente modificare il file SkinInfo.xml e farlo partire; il numero di questa build di Messenger è 8089.)  Will Ingles <a href="http://www.designevolved.net/board/showthread.php?tid=454">nota</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tutti possono aggiornare in modo sicuro la loro versione senza preoccupazioni per le loro skin. Messenger Plus! sembra funzionare alla perfezione con questa nuova build.</p></blockquote>
</li>
<li><strong>Posso tenere ancora spenti i frame di Windows Aero?<br />
</strong>Per tua convenienza, sto lavorando ad una versione aggiornata di Messenger Aero Switcher. Torna qui per maggiori informazioni a riguardo.</li>
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		<title>Skins, Messenger, Aero—Some catch-up regarding Build 8089</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jo Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By today the whole world will know that a new build of Windows Live Messenger 2009 has been released.  Here are the answers to some popular questions that might arise.

How can I upgrade Messenger?  Do I have to?
You can upgrade Messenger by downloading its web installer.  Upgrading is recommended, yet not mandatory.
Do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-111" style="float: right; margin-left: 15px" title="Windows Live Messenger 2009" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wave3logomessenger1.png" alt="Windows Live Messenger 2009" width="64" height="64" />By today the whole world will know that a new build of Windows Live Messenger 2009 has been released.  Here are the answers to some popular questions that might arise.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>How can I upgrade Messenger?  Do I have to?<br />
</strong>You can upgrade Messenger by downloading its <a href="http://download.live.com/messenger">web installer</a>.  Upgrading is recommended, yet not mandatory.</li>
<li><strong>Do Messenger add-ons work with the updated version?<br />
</strong>Yes.  Here is a list of Messenger add-ons that are known to work:</p>
<ul>
<li>Messenger Plus! Live</li>
<li>MessengerDiscovery</li>
<li>LiveScratcher</li>
<li>BuddyFuse</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Do Messenger skins in PLSK format work?<br />
</strong>That depends on the skins and their “restriction” settings.  For example, Plus!Patch needs an update to work with this version.  (If you are an experienced user, you may safely edit the SkinInfo.xml to get it running; Messenger’s new build number is 8089.)  Will Ingles <a href="http://www.designevolved.net/board/showthread.php?tid=454">notes:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>People can safely upgrade to this new build without worrying about their skins breaking. Messenger Plus! also seems to be working perfectly fine on this new build.</p></blockquote>
</li>
<li><strong>Can I still turn those Windows Aero frames off?<br />
</strong>For your convenience, I am working on an updated version of Messenger Aero Switcher.  Stay tuned for more information about this soon.</li>
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		<title>Windows Live and You: “Hmm, I wonder if I can do this better” (Frans–Willem Hardijzer)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jo Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first interview in the Windows Live and You summer edition.  I’m sure that my conversation with Frans-Willem Hardijzer, who developed the Messenger add-on StuffPlug, and is also known as “The Blasphemer”, will be especially interesting for you.
mynetx: I find it great that you got some minutes to talk with me about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img style="margin: 0px 20px 10px 0px" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/franswillemhardijzer.png" alt="Frans-Willem Hardijzer" width="65" height="65" align="left" />This is the first interview in the <em>Windows Live and You</em> summer edition.  I’m sure that my conversation with <strong>Frans-Willem Hardijzer</strong>, who developed the Messenger add-on <strong><a href="http://www.stuffplug.com/">StuffPlug</a></strong>, and is also known as “The Blasphemer”, will be especially interesting for you.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83; clear: left"><strong>mynetx:</strong> I find it great that you got some minutes to talk with me about <em>Windows Live and You</em>.<br />
Tell me a bit about yourself.  Is your life directly or indirectly involved with Windows Live?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> I’m not as much involved with Windows Live as I used to, mainly because studying and everything around that (yes, drinking and having fun) takes up a lot of time, but Windows Live Messenger is still my primary means of day-to-day communication with friends.
</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> How were you involved with Windows Live?  What is your history, that is, how did you come to Windows Live Messenger?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Well, I don’t quite remember how I got in touch with Windows Live (or at that time MSN) Messenger.  I do remember what got me started on developing though.  Back in the time of Messenger 5 or 6, Patchou suddenly launched a plug-in architecture for Messenger Plus!.  I’d always been interested in writing programs, but I’d never gotten round to serious development with C, mainly because command line was so incredibly boring compared to the forms that you could get with Visual Basic.  But then suddenly I *could* make fun things with C.  I started out with some simple code to convert text for you, e.g. leet speak, but as I kept finding out more things, I kept adding more and more stuff to my plug-in.  That’s mainly how StuffPlug got it’s name: It was a plug-in without a clear goal or feature set, it was just a plug-in with all the stuff I’d written: StuffPlug.</p>
<p><span id="more-445"></span><a href="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stuffplug35about.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 20px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="StuffPlug 3.5 About" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stuffplug35about_thumb.png" border="0" alt="StuffPlug 3.5 About" width="244" height="200" align="right" /></a> At some point though I got better at C, and that got me into Assembler, and I started adjusting small things in Messenger to make it better fit my wishes.  It started out with bigger display pictures, and then time-zone adjustable clocks as I talked with lots of people overseas, and I just “fixed” any annoyance I had with Messenger.</p>
<p>Nowadays however I think WLM 9 is pretty close to perfect.  I don’t see an immediate need to adjust stuff, and I’m not even using Plus! anymore as the built-in logging is pretty good.</p>
<p>Anything else you wanted to know on that subject <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ? I feel I’m just rambling on now. <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Do you think the Windows Live team cares for their users’ demands?  Why?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, good question.  I’m not sure.  They used to be very open to the community, I remember Leah was very passionate about the blog, but these days I feel the <a href="http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/">messengersays blog</a> is mostly just marketing.  Also I’m not sure I or you still fall in their desired user-group, all they seem to be focusing on is 10 year olds obsessed with nudges, winks, sounds, and emoticons.</p>
<p>Although I must say that somewhere along the line some pretty nifty features snuck in, like built-in polygamy or the word wheel, that makes me feel that there are at least a few developers or Program Managers at Microsoft concerned with the actual usability <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Yahoo—Microsoft.  What did you think last summer?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Well, to be honest, I was hoping that it had marked the start for more interoperability between IM networks, but I feel a bit let down.  I don’t actually know anyone that uses Yahoo as their primary IM client, but when I tried it I felt like they only did the bare minimum to get people to talk to each other.  I’m still waiting for interoperability between WLM and Google Talk, but I’m afraid that’s never going to happen…</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> – what about Windows Live &#038; Facebook?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Well, it’s handy that my PSM gets synched up with Facebook, but that’s about it, I guess <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Within the next five years, where could you picture Windows Live?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, I’m not sure really.  I mean, there’s a lot of things I’d *like* to see, like GTalk and WLM interoperability as I mentioned before, but for some reason Microsoft always seems to surprise me, and never seems to go the obvious routes.  I mean come on, they just renamed their search engine after they pumped millions of dollars into getting a global brand name for all their online services.  wtf <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ?</p>
<p>One thing I do hope though is that they’ll come up with something new for once.  Instead of constantly following (e.g. Spaces after blogging, social networks just while Facebook was coming up, etc.), I’m hoping they’ll come up with something new and exciting and start leading again <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Give two positive and negative comments on any Windows Live product.</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm.<br />
Positive:<br />
- They’re really reaching out to other platforms, Yahoo, Facebook.<br />
- Most of the products are always properly finished and polished, even the beta products just work.</p>
<p>Negative:<br />
- Too much following, not enough leading.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Do you run Windows Live Messenger 24/7?  Do you have some kind of a routine with Messenger and the other parts of Windows Live?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Not 24/7, I shut down my PC at nights, but if I’m awake, my PC is on, and WLM is on <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Not really a routine, although I do make a point of answering all offline messages I get <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Use your fantasy: how do you think Messenger will look like within the next five years? What new features could it present?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, well, GTalk and AIM integration for one <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Not sure what else I’m missing though :/</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> What about Tabbed Chatting?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm, I’m good with the Vista taskbar grouping to be honest.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Your guess for the next release, Wave 4—what might be in the oven for Windows Live Messenger 2010?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> I’m hoping much more integration with other, non Windows Live, services.  Seeing as they’ve only just begun with that, I think there’s a fair chance they’ll be expanding that in Wave 4.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Services like?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, I’m not sure if they’ll be expanding to more services.  I think it’s more likely the integration they currently have will be expanded. e.g. see Facebook info in WLM instead of the other way round, automatically linking up contacts to their Facebook accounts, etc.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Are you satisfied with the Windows Live services that are provided to you?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm, yeah, in general I am <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Why?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Probably not the answer you’re looking for, but they’re all free services.  Yes, they might have a few shortcomings (like ads), but it’s free, so what right do you have to complain about those <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ?</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Heh, good point though…<br />
What is your favorite feature in Messenger?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hah, that’s easy!  The conversations <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, there’s lots of nice features, but in the end I use it because I can have conversations with my friends using it.  If all my friends would be using AIM, I’m pretty sure I’d been using that instead.  But if you really want me to pick a feature outside of chatting, I’d go for the word wheel above the contacts.  With the number of people in my list that’s pretty essential <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Ever heard of Live Mesh?  What was your first impression of it?  Could it be a new diverse method of file sharing among peers, or could it improve the current system at hand?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm, yeah, I have Live Mesh installed on both my computers.  I’m not really using it though, for file sharing I usually just use a simple off-line USB-key (just bought a nice new one actually, LaCie iAmAKey, totally love it <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ), and for remote administration I have Remote Desktop enabled.  I kind of dislike Live Mesh not being able to use a different resolution than the one I have at home apart from scaling, viewing 3200×1200 on a 15&#8243; laptop screen doesn’t really allow me to read anything.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> So you would like to see a resolution customization like the one in Remote Desktop?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> I wasn’t aware you could use it to share files with friends though, I should take a look at that.  But I’m not convinced it’ll be a “new diverse method of file sharing among peers” really, I’ve heard that claim one too many times (remember Messenger shared folders?).</p>
<p>Hmmm, not sure I need Live Mesh actually, Remote desktop really does everything I’d want it to :-/  But then again, for people that didn’t set up a subdomain to always link to their home IP might find it more convenient to use Live Mesh <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Do you wish Messenger would have a feature that a third-party IM software already has?  As add-on developer, this question might be especially interesting for you…</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, I haven’t really used any other IM applications recently, so I wouldn’t know.  I did hear Pidgin does some nice things like set the window icon to the display picture of the other person <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Yes, I’ve seen that recently as well.<br />
As Messenger user, I’m sure you’ve got a good tip that not everybody might know about yet.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/wordwheel.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 20px 0px 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="Messenger 2009: Contact list word wheel" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/wordwheel_thumb.jpg" border="0" alt="Messenger 2009: Contact list word wheel" width="244" height="129" align="left" /></a> Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm, yeah.  The word wheel, use it <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It’s so incredibly easy to just Alt-Tab to Messenger, type in whomever you’re looking for, hit Enter, and start typing immediately <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Are you working on any project related to Windows Live currently?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmm, yeah, LiveScratcher, but not very actively at the moment, some university deadlines coming up.  I hope to be able to get some major work done in July though <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> What’s it about?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Well, it’s about putting every technical trick I know about Messenger into a big library.  I’m hoping I can write a framework that I can use myself to write another StuffPlug like add-on on, as well as allow other developers to use it to write theirs.  It’s like Plus! scripting, but then with all of Plus!’s own features implemented in scripts too.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> That sounds exciting!</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> For people interested, there are some really early previews on <a href="http://www.livescratcher.com/">livescratcher.com</a>, and there’s a mailing list you can use to get in touch with me and other interested people.  Mind you though, the current stuff is only for developers.  So normal users beware, but developers please check it out and let me know what you think.  Loads of feedback ensures that it ends up a nice platform to work with <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Down to what level, do you think, might your library reach?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Well, for now I’ve only done some DirectUI stuff, which allows you to play with Messenger’s user interface.  Like remove something here, add something there, change a background or a picture.  Like skinning, but then instead of replacing everything, just targeting small bits.</p>
<p>I intend to write a nice wrapper around all the messenger API’s, and add extra functionality like send text and data from scripts.  And at the moment I’m doing some research on in-memory patching, to allow for things like removing the nudge limit.  I’m hoping to expose everything I used in StuffPlug to scripting.</p>
<p>And as with StuffPlug, it’ll always be a work-in-progress.  I do intend to keep adding new stuff I learn.  But it’s set up in a very modular way, that allows me (or maybe other developers) to plug in extra parts when needed.  And there’s also a way for scripts to communicate with each other, so someone might write a script that doesn’t really add any features for the user, but will expose some new functionality for other scripts to use.</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> And—what about compatibility with the existing Messenger add-ons (<a href="http://www.msgpluslive.net/">Messenger Plus!</a>, <a href="http://www.msgdiscovery.com/">MessengerDiscovery</a>, <a href="http://www.sweetim.com/">SweetIM</a> and more)?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hah, what kind of question is that <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   Of course it’ll be compatible, I always put a lot of thought into that sorts of things <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   If Patchou and Matt are ok with it, I might even add methods to communicate with Plus! and MD scripts <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> How patient should we be until we see usable bits of all this appear, especially if they’re not developers?  Can we get excited?</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Hmmm, developers can get excited, but I’m afraid it’ll take some time before there’s something user-friendly enough for normal users.  Mind you though that it’s a massive project, and I want to think through each and every aspect of it carefully to make sure it turns into a nice API, so it will take some time <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> Okay — “StuffPlug 4”? <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> Yes, hopefully at some point <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My slogan while developing is<br />
“Hmm, I wonder if I can do this better…”</p>
<p style="color: #334d83"><strong>mynetx:</strong> I think that’s a great thing you got in mind.  Anyways, I’ve bothered you enough for now!<br />
Thank you for spending these minutes on <em>Windows Live and You</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Frans-Willem:</strong> You’re welcome <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In its issue of January 29, 2009, The Guardian has published a controversial, even critical essay on Patchou, the creator of Messenger Plus!. I found it worth reading, however decide yourself.
The adware altercation
Software developer Patchou provokes fierce opinions in cyberspace. His army of fans think he&#8217;s a genius; critics say he has sold his soul [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In its issue of January 29, 2009, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jan/29/adware-internet"><em>The Guardian</em></a> has published a controversial, even critical essay on Patchou, the creator of Messenger Plus!. I found it worth reading, however decide yourself.</p>
<h2>The adware altercation</h2>
<p><em>Software developer Patchou provokes fierce opinions in cyberspace. His army of fans think he&#8217;s a genius; critics say he has sold his soul for profit.<span id="more-189"></span></em></p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 470px"><img title="Cyril Paciullo (aka Patchou), who created Messenger Plus! Live" src="http://mynetx.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/patchouakacyrilpaciull0se4.jpg" alt="Cyril Paciullo (aka Patchou), who created Messenger Plus! Live" width="460" height="276" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Cyril Paciullo (aka Patchou), who created Messenger Plus! Live</p></div>
<p>To some in the downtrodden kingdom of the geek, he is a messiah. To others, he is the devil incarnate. No one, it seems, divides opinion among the tribes of of cyberspace quite like Patchou. The software creator, real name Cyril Paciullo, is the man behind Messenger Plus! Live – which, he claims, has been downloaded 60m times and is particularly popular among teen­agers. An updated version is due out at the end of this month; the forum on his site boasts 80,000 members.</p>
<p>Patchou&#8217;s creation is an add-on to Microsoft&#8217;s hugely popular Windows Live Messenger, or MSN, the instant messaging and social networking program used by 17.5 million people in Britain alone. Patchou&#8217;s software adds dozens of extra features, such as custom sounds, colours, clever ways to manage contacts and, for the uber-geeky, the ability to program your own tweaks.</p>
<p>And for that Patchou&#8217;s grateful young disciples sing his praises in thousands of web forums and chatrooms. &#8220;You rock,&#8221; they gush. Such is their adulation that one admirer boasts of making a 100mph dash to Disneyland just to spend a few minutes in Patchou&#8217;s company. The acolyte proclaims: &#8220;It was really cool to meet Patchou, he&#8217;s awesome.&#8221;</p>
<p>But this is a man who has also outraged millions. His sin? A Faustian pact with dark forces responsible for distributing adware, those pop-up windows that torture PC users the world over. Messenger Plus! Live comes bundled with a &#8220;sponsor&#8217;s program&#8221;, which the unwary install unwittingly on their machines. They are then subjected to messages urging them to buy insurance, take out credit cards, play poker or download ringtones. To his opponents this breaks a sacred code of geek ethics and the two sides engage in furious online debates. Supporters say Patchou has provided a brilliant piece of software free to millions of people and the adware is harmless; critics call him &#8220;a scam artist making money off gullible young Live Messenger users&#8221;.</p>
<h3>Devil in the detail</h3>
<p>In the middle of this maelstrom sits Microsoft, which appears to have been impressed by Patchou&#8217;s work. In 2006, the software giant was moved to honour him with a Most Valuable Professional award – but the howls of protest about his links to adware led the company to withdraw it. Although the dust has settled and the adware is easier to spot and remove, online forums remain littered with the pitiful pleas of the infected driven to distraction by the unslayable sponsor program.</p>
<p>So who is this demi-god/devil? In fact, he is a French-born, self-confessed geek and Star Trek aficionado living in Montreal, Canada. Even his harshest critics admire his skill and industry. After all, he&#8217;s been at it since he was 14, when he first got a computer and started dabbling with programming. &#8220;I&#8217;ve always been passionate about computers,&#8221; he says.</p>
<p>Messenger Plus! Live started eight years ago; it&#8217;s now a full-time job.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Back then, I was working on it part-time, during the night, while working as a software developer for a company during the day. The popularity of the software was growing so I decided it was time to do the jump.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Much of the success is down to attention to detail, the 27-year-old insists.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Thousands of programs are created and put online every day. Unfortunately, a majority of them are never &#8216;finished&#8217;, never polished. If you do something, do it well,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I now have around 60 million active users and a lot of people working for me, directly or not. About 50 people are working to translate each new version of the software into 21 different languages and 100 more give a hand for the beta tests. You have the official helpers on the main forums and people on various websites doing the promotion of the add-on.</p>
<p>In a given month I may be working only 20 hours a week and the following month, I&#8217;ll get up only to put myself in front of my computer screens until I go to sleep 16 hours later. The good news is I have a very nice and forgiving girlfriend.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And he doesn&#8217;t find it easy coping with the worldwide adulation.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Software developers tend to be geeks and, yes, geeks tend to be shy,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Still, I&#8217;ve always enjoyed our gatherings, what we call Plus! Meetings, quite a lot. It&#8217;s a nice feeling to see many people coming from many different countries and who have never met before have some fun together, speak in real life. The software is just a pretext to socialise. It&#8217;s good to see people from time to time when you spend your days and nights in front of a screen.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The devotion surprises his critics. Another Microsoft MVP award holder, the internet security campaigner Chris Boyd, who spoke out against Patchou in 2006, says he was taken aback by the amount of vitriol poured in his direction by the software designer&#8217;s youthful army of fans. Boyd acknowledges some of Patchou&#8217;s changes have helped soothe some, if not all, of the critics, but adds: &#8220;It&#8217;s a very peculiar business model.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are perhaps a dozen other Live Messenger add-ons available, although none of them have Patchou&#8217;s audience. MessengerDiscovery, started four years ago by the New Zealand-based software developer Matt Holwood, adds 150 features to Live Messenger, has racked up millions of users and has a forum with more than 8,000 members. Like Patchou, it started as a part-time project but has also become a full-time job, paid for by more traditional ads on his website.</p>
<p>But Holwood, 21, is scathing about Patchou&#8217;s use of adware. He says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Personally, I think it&#8217;s wrong and greedy. You have a moral obligation not to get greedy and infect such a large amount of unsuspecting people with malware. I&#8217;m sure he lives a very luxurious lifestyle but you have to look at the big picture. Developers should fight against that sort of trash rather than distribute it. He could live very well simply from the advertising on the website. I do, and he has seven times the visitors.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<h3>Not into temptation</h3>
<p>In Holland, another 21-year-old, Frans-Willem Hardijzer, known as The Blasphemer, has been running StuffPlug for the past five years. He also uses ads on his site to to fund his program, which has about 250,000 users. Although he has had to fit his project around his school and university studies, and now a full-time job, he also refuses to be tempted by adware.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Apart from the server to host the website, there isn&#8217;t that much cost to keep it running,&#8221; says Hardijzer. &#8220;In the past I&#8217;ve made enough money through the Google AdSense program to live pretty comfortably as a student. I&#8217;ve considered selling out but I simply don&#8217;t like the idea of bundling mal/spy/adware with my program like [Patchou] does. People trust me to give them quality software and I don&#8217;t like abusing that trust.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Adware is undoubtedly profitable. Because it inhabits a murky corner of the internet linked to more malevolent forms of computer infection, no one knows exactly how much money it generates, although estimates of up to $2bn (£1.4bn) a year are bandied about. Distributors pay those who help get their software on to them a few cents each time their adware is installed or, more rarely, each time a pop-up ad is clicked.</p>
<p>One notorious US adware company netted a reported $149 million in four years. Another, which was eventually brought to book by US regulators, raked in a reported $80million in three years.</p>
<p>Messenger Plus! is connected to a little-­known company called Circle Development Ltd – which appears to be based in the Ukraine – also known as C2Media or CiD, and linked to the website Lop.com.</p>
<h3>Installing belief</h3>
<p>For people like Patchou there is plenty of potential to get rich. Challenged in forums by claims that at 6 cents an install, with 800,000 downloads a month, he could potentially net $48,000 (£34,000) a month, he responded:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In case there would be some doubts, I&#8217;m still not paid by install. And so you know, C2Media doesn&#8217;t give 6 cents per install for the kind of package I have. For the record: I&#8217;m being paid by searches (and only for some of them), so I wouldn&#8217;t win a cent even if a billion users installed my sponsor tomorrow. C2Media (lop.com) is probably one of the best adware companies on the market today and that&#8217;s exactly why I continue to do my business with them: because they can be trusted.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Graham Cluley, a senior technology consultant at Sophos, says adware is a &#8220;huge business&#8221; and some &#8220;very well-known companies&#8221; were trying to exploit the fact no one really considers what they are installing on their PCs .</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you are a youngster, then you just press the button until the thing you want is installed,&#8221; he says. &#8220;You agree to the terms and conditions, so it&#8217;s legal. It&#8217;s human nature not to read the terms and conditions.&#8221; At best, he adds, adware is a nuisance. At worst, it can be bad for online business. &#8220;It&#8217;s not the way you want to behave on the internet. It does inflame the internet community.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For all that, Paciullo is unrepentant.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;People who accuse me generally do not understand – or accept – that software development is not something you can finance easily these days. People don&#8217;t tend to buy software, they just download it. The idea behind an optional sponsor program is to offer a way to support the work while offering at the same time a product that&#8217;s completely free of any obligation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>He says he may adopt the same approach for future software launches.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a win-win situation that works out pretty well.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>—Ian Pickering, The Guardian</p>
<p><strong><em>What do you think? Adware? Malware? Software? Cool-ware? Curious to read your opinion <img src='http://mynetx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</em></strong></p>
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